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Podcast: The Fox and the Phoenix
Episode: 143 - With Open Minds and Bodies
Description: In this episode, Julie asks Savannah how her experience was going to therapy for the first time... as Savannah. Sure, Chuck has been going to therapy for a while now, but this marked the first time the therapist asked Savannah to make an actual "wig to heel" appearance "on the couch". They touch on the actual session experience, the nervousness Savannah felt about showing up for the first time, her concern for receiving validation and acceptance as a serious male-to-female gender diverse individual, and the feelings of being seen and heard in her feminine persona. Julie and Savannah round...