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Podcast: The Daily
Episode: 'The Interview': Rick Steves Refuses To Get Cynical About the World
Description: The guidebook writer and television personality reflects on his cancer diagnosis, social media’s corrosive effect on tourism and the transformative power of travel.Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everythingfrom politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts oron Apple Podcasts and Spotify.