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Podcast: The Atlantic Out Loud
Episode: Marauding Nation
Description: What happens when the nation takes a zero-sum approach to the world?By David FrumFrom the January 2025 issue. Get more from your favorite Atlantic voices when you subscribe. You’ll enjoy unlimited access to Pulitzer-winning journalism, from clear-eyed analysis and insight on breaking news. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices