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Podcast: The Bulwark Podcast
Episode: Kaitlan Collins: Still Surreal
Description: Jack Smith's filing on Jan 6 reads almost like a novel—with Trump shrugging about Pence having to be evacuated, mocking true believer Sidney Powell, and implicating himself with a damning phone-data footprint. Plus, life as a CNN anchor, the evolution of conservative media, and no, Megyn, Kaitlan is an Alabama girl. Kaitlan Collins joins Tim Miller.