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Podcast: The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg
Episode: Apocalypse Now | Interview: Ross Douthat
Description: Ross Douthat of the New York Times joins Jonah Goldberg to ruminate over the resilience of American democracy, Pope Leo XIV, postliberalism, and Douthat’s recent conversation with Peter Thiel. Plus: their thoughts on wokeness, the Antichrist, and performative apocalypticism.
Show Notes:—Ross Douthat's podcast, "Interesting Times"—Ross Douthat's book, Grand New Party: How Republicans Can Win the Working Class and Save the American Dream—Jonah’s Los Angeles Times column, “Elon Musk’s America Party is a long shot"
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