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Podcast: The Modern Therapist's Survival Guide with Curt Widhalm and Katie Vernoy
Episode: The Lasting Harm of Conversion Therapy: An Interview with Samuel Nieves
Description: The Lasting Harm of Conversion Therapy: An Interview with Samuel Nieves
This interview was recorded in November 2025 in anticipation of the Supreme Court ruling in Chiles v. Salazar and released afterward. Rather than focusing on the legal details of the decision, Curt and Katie talk with Samuel Nieves about the harms of conversion therapy, how change efforts can be disguised as therapy, and what clinicians need to understand when working with survivors. Sam shares from his lived experience as a survivor and explains why the deepest harms often involve identity damage, loss of self-trust, and disconnection from...