Welcome to the Patterns Podcast. Each episode we sit down with the leaders and builders defining how modern digital products come to life. From systems and tools to culture and decision making, we dig into what’s driving real impact today and shaping the future of how teams build.
Building Trust: Designing Product Ecosystems in the Age of AI
33 mins; March 10, 2026
Inside the Alaska–Hawaiian Merger: Shipping a Multi-Brand Experience in 10 Months
41 mins; February 10, 2026
Designing the Learning Loop: Context, AI, and Compound Systems
48 mins; January 27, 2026
DSP 139. Why the Future of Digital Production Starts With Code, Not a Canvas
34 mins; December 17, 2025
DSP 138. Scaling Inclusive Design: An Accessibility Conversation with Anna Thielke
24 mins; December 04, 2025
DSP 137. Why You Shouldn’t Aim for Perfect: Building Design Systems That Deliver Business Value with Noelle Lansford
44 mins; November 11, 2025
DSP 136. Are Design Systems Still for People? A Conversation with Elyse Holladay
45 mins; July 22, 2025
DSP 135. The Infrastructure Behind Digital Production: A Conversation with Steve Dodier-Lazaro
36 mins; July 08, 2025
DSP 134 Modernizing a Legend: Catherine Dubut Builds the Future at Ford Pro
30 mins; June 13, 2025
DSP 133. Garth Braithwaite on Design Tokens, Governance, and Scaling Spectrum at Adobe
59 mins; May 27, 2025
DSP 132. The Evolution of Digital Production: TJ Pitre Talks Flash, Figma, and the Future of Dynamic Design
29 mins; April 29, 2025
DSP 131. DSP Rewind | Rick Rodriguez on Building an Adaptable and Scalable Design system
31 mins; April 15, 2025
DSP 130. Jon Warden on How GSK Uses Design Systems to Balance Scale, Flexibility, and Innovation
41 mins; April 01, 2025
DSP 129. Mashup | The Future of AI and Digital Production
48 mins; March 18, 2025
DSP 128. Rewind | Emily Campbell: Design and code convergence
42 mins; March 11, 2025
DSP 127. Building a Unified Design System for Instacart’s Multi-Product Ecosystem: Lessons for Success from Miranda Bouck
31 mins; February 04, 2025
DSP 126. Scaling Avalara's Design System to Support a Growth-By-Acquisition Strategy
26 mins; January 21, 2025
DSP 125. Inside H-E-B’s Digital Transformation: Adriana Morales on Design Systems That Empower Teams
37 mins; January 07, 2025
DSP 124. From Ideas to Impact: Chris Strahl and Evan Lovely on Five Years of Design Systems Innovation
34 mins; December 10, 2024
DSP 123. Adoption, Efficiency, and Value: insights from KickstartDS’s Jonas Ulrich and Daniel Ley
27 mins; November 26, 2024
DSP 122. Creating Cohesion from Chaos: The Role of Language and System Design with Ben Callahan
44 mins; November 12, 2024
DSP 121. The Intersection of Urban Planning and Design Systems: Insights from Andii Hei
32 mins; October 29, 2024
DSP 120. From Designer to Design System Leader: Insights from Allison Shaw's Career Journey
33 mins; October 15, 2024
DSP 119. Rethinking Design Consistency: Debating Tokens vs. Components with ADPs Alice Preisler
32 mins; October 01, 2024
DSP 118. Reusability, Collaboration, and Empathy: Catalina Manea on Bridging Design and Development to Build Applications with Design Systems"
25 mins; September 17, 2024
DSP 117. Why Kate Moran Thinks Humans Are Essential to the Future of Generative UI and AI.
42 mins; September 03, 2024
DSP 116. Designed for success: How Guy Segal Built a Design System that Product Teams Want to Use.
30 mins; August 20, 2024
DSP 115. Design System Sources of Truth: Transparency and Collaboration with Dropbox’s Mark Shuster
29 mins; August 06, 2024
DSP 114. Design Systems and Ways of Working: Nick Hahn on Collaboration, Adoption, and AI
35 mins; July 09, 2024
DSP 113. Config 2024: Highlights and Hot Takes with Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye
21 mins; June 28, 2024
DSP 112. Creating Effective Design Systems for Small and Mid-Size Companies: Apiture’s Journey
28 mins; June 27, 2024
DSP 111. How AI is Revolutionizing Design Systems and Customer Experiences with Dave Calleja
41 mins; June 12, 2024
DSP 110. The Evolution of ServiceNow's Design System with Meredith Van Lier
32 mins; May 28, 2024
109. Making Design Systems Inclusive with Accessibility Specialist Daniel Henderson-Ede
26 mins; May 14, 2024
108. U.S. Bank’s Beau Ulrey on Building Trust Through Design Systems
31 mins; April 30, 2024
107. The Evolution of IBM's Carbon Design System with Scott Strubberg
34 mins; April 16, 2024
106. Brad Frost on Adaptable Design Systems
47 mins; April 02, 2024
105. Ranjeet Tayi from Informatica: AI-Driven Design
39 mins; March 19, 2024
104. Shawn Cheris from Adobe: Spectrum 2 Design System and AI’s Role in the Future of Design
46 mins; March 12, 2024
103. Nate Baldwin from Intuit: Multi-Brand Theming in Complex Organizations
34 mins; March 06, 2024
102. David MĂĽller: Intentional Breakpoints and AI Insights
29 mins; February 29, 2024
101. PJ Onori of Pinterest/Disney: Design Systems Shifting the Productivity Paradigm
38 mins; February 20, 2024
100. Brian Dorsey on Design and Engineering Synergy at Mastercard
29 mins; February 13, 2024
99. Jackie Lai, Lead UX Designer at OPIS Dow Jones, on Creating Future-Proof Systems
29 mins; February 07, 2024
98. Exploring Alexandrian Patterns in Design Systems with Kevin Muldoon at Dow Jones
28 mins; January 30, 2024
97. Curt Schreiber, CCO at VSA, on Building Global Design Systems for Scale
36 mins; January 23, 2024
96. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye: Navigating Career Pathways in Design Systems
44 mins; January 16, 2024
95. Matt Weinberg, Sr. Product Designer at Angi: Empathy-First Approach to Evolving Design Systems
25 mins; January 02, 2024
94. Josh Clark, Founder of Big Medium: Scaling Digital Strategy Within Complex Organizations
41 mins; December 19, 2023
93. Nathan Curtis, Co-founder of EightShapes: Balancing reuse and customization in UI Design
38 mins; December 13, 2023
92. Lisa Apers Independent Designer and Researcher: Tailoring UIs with brainwaves for personalized user experiences
27 mins; November 30, 2023
91. Designing diversity: Crafting tiered systems for a global market with Tim Banker at Slalom Consulting
31 mins; November 16, 2023
90. The innovation triad: Needs, coverage and adoption with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy at T. Rowe Price
33 mins; November 09, 2023
90. The innovation triad: Needs, coverage and adoption with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy at T. Rowe Price
34 mins; November 08, 2023
89. Metrics matter: Harnessing usage data for adoption, coverage, efficiency, and quality with Maya Hampton at REI
29 mins; November 01, 2023
88. Beyond isolation: Harmonizing products in a design ecosystem with JJ Rogers at Watermark
27 mins; October 26, 2023
87. Designing success: Crafting principles for passkey adoption with Kevin Goldman and Sierre Wolfkostin at FIDO Alliance
34 mins; October 18, 2023
86. From consistency to contribution: How design systems grow trees with Jay Smith at REI
34 mins; October 04, 2023
85. Driving speed and consistency: The power of design systems in startups with Jamie Totten at Klue
29 mins; September 27, 2023
84. Digital typography: Suggesting, not dictating with Juli Sombat at Spotify and Jason Pamental at Chewy
39 mins; September 21, 2023
83. Breaking silos and enhancing teamwork in design systems with Tony Pantello and Chris Henke at Accutech
34 mins; September 13, 2023
82. Design system revamp: Unpacking Monster's UX odyssey with Billea Breen
31 mins; September 06, 2023
81. Embracing change with Mark Reynolds, Design System Consultant: How design and engineering roles are evolving in design systems
37 mins; August 30, 2023
80. Bridging Code & Creativity with Kevin Broich at Cisco
38 mins; August 22, 2023
79. Inside Pinterest's Gestalt System with Product Designers, Kate Halvorsen and Cintia Romero: A community-centric approach
42 mins; August 15, 2023
78. Bridging the design-code gap at Meta, a multidisciplinary approach with Sriram Ramasubramanian
28 mins; August 08, 2023
77. Robin Cannon, Executive Director and Head of Design System at J.P. Morgan: Creating an environment that encourages and builds trust with design systems
44 mins; July 31, 2023
76. Christophe Coutzoukis Design System Lead: Building Thriving Design System Communities
35 mins; July 24, 2023
75. Adam Sedwick Senior Product Manager: Harnessing the power of design systems to unify your team
36 mins; July 12, 2023
74. Richard Banfield, Advisor & Recovering CEO: What does iterative work look like in design systems?
41 mins; June 22, 2023
73. Sheryl Cababa Chief Strategy Officer at Substantial: Using system thinking to make informed decisions
35 mins; June 15, 2023
72. Danielle MacDonald Creative Head, Digital Product Design: Designing to scale
36 mins; May 31, 2023
71. Chris Deluca Senior Front-End Developer: People are the heart of design systems
38 mins; May 23, 2023
70. Pinata's Kendall Totten interviews Knapsack CEO Chris Strahl: Design with code and AI
58 mins; May 16, 2023
69. The single source of truth mentality: Meta Part Two
20 mins; May 09, 2023
68. Driving Consistency Across Systems with Meta Part One
17 mins; May 02, 2023
67. Design Token Takes Part Two: Kaelig Deloumeau-Prigent and Darren Simons
31 mins; April 23, 2023
66. Design Token Takes Part One: Amber Stickel and Taylor Cashdan
38 mins; April 16, 2023
65. Morgane Peng Managing Director & Head of Design at Societe Generale Corporate & Investment Banking: Is a design system a business asset or a technical asset?
34 mins; March 13, 2023
64. Evan Lovely CTO & Co-Founder of Knapsack: Source of truth should be the user experience
38 mins; March 06, 2023
63. Jennie Yip Principal Design Architect from Atlassian Design System: Building design systems, following the path of least resistance
30 mins; February 28, 2023
62. Avery Oldt Head of Design and Research from Amazon: Scaling ideas to systems
40 mins; February 19, 2023
61. Jack McCloy Engineering Manager from Amplitude: The Purpose of Design Systems
33 mins; February 14, 2023
60. Adekunle Oduye from Plaid: Systems and solving problems for its users
33 mins; February 06, 2023
59. Jennifer D’Amato, Senior UI/UX Designer and Donnie D’Amato, Senior Engineer: Design systems reflect those who use, maintain and are a part of it
25 mins; January 30, 2023
58. Michael Jeter, Creative Director from Zapier: Systems have always been a part of solving design problems
42 mins; January 18, 2023
57. Francesco Cutolo from Klarna: Start from scratch, or build on existing design systems, which is more viable?
30 mins; January 09, 2023
56. Smith Schwartz, Product Design Manager & Tyce Clee, Engineering Manager at Spotify discuss their design system, Encore
41 mins; December 20, 2022
55. Todd Wilkens from Remote: The experience is the product
41 mins; December 07, 2022
54. Nick Hahn founder of Creative Liberation: Design systems are going to reduce the need for early career designers by 75%
32 mins; November 22, 2022
53. Dana Lawson from Netlify: Bridging the gap between engineers and designers
34 mins; November 15, 2022
52. Kathryn Gonzalez from DoorDash: Localize your design system
23 mins; October 26, 2022
51. Evan Lovely, Chris Bloom, Jake Love, and Brittany Smart from Knapsack: Hot Takes on the State of Design Systems
33 mins; September 21, 2022
50. Stephen Gates: What makes a good design leader?
37 mins; September 06, 2022
49. Vojtech Miksu from Uber: Next-gen tooling for developers
36 mins; August 01, 2022
48. Meghan Rosatelli and Saejin Choi from Capital One: Navigating design system convergence, adoption, and contribution simultaneously
41 mins; June 06, 2022
47. Nick Dorman and Ellis Capon from News UK: Bridging old and new media with News UK’s design system, NewsKit
35 mins; May 16, 2022
46. Davy Fung from Disney+/Hulu: Spicy takes on design system nuances
31 mins; May 02, 2022
45. Una Kravets from Google Chrome and Chris Bloom from Knapsack: The internet’s dirty secret
49 mins; April 18, 2022
44. Corey Greeneltch from Compass: Why design systems should be part of your company’s DNA
