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The Non-Anxious Leader Podcast

The Non-Anxious Leader Podcast uses a family systems theory approach to increase your spiritual, emotional and physical well-being so you can be the best leader possible. Each episode explores research and practical tips to help you be a personal and professional non-anxious presence.

Episode 376: This Is How Self-Differentiation Makes You a Trustworthy Leader (Rebroadcast)

13 mins; March 30, 2026

Episode 375: 3 Ways We Bind Anxiety and How to Manage Them

12 mins; March 23, 2026

Episode 374: 5 Characteristics of an Open Relationship System

11 mins; March 16, 2026

Episode 373: Non-Anxious Leaders Don’t Complain (and 5 ways to stop) (Rebroadcast)

9 mins; March 09, 2026

Episode 372: A Family Systems Take on Moral Foundations Theory (Part 2 of 2)

22 mins; March 02, 2026

Episode 371: A Family Systems Take on Moral Foundations Theory (Part 1 of 2)

18 mins; February 23, 2026

Episode 370: 5 Ways to Respond to System Anxiety

12 mins; February 16, 2026

Episode 369: 5 Mistakes That Escalate Family Tension — and What They Teach Us About Leadership

12 mins; February 09, 2026

Episode 368: What Exactly IS a Failure of Nerve - Part 2 of 2 (Rebroadcast)

15 mins; February 02, 2026

Episode 367: What Exactly IS a Failure of Nerve - Part 1 of 2 (Rebroadcast)

14 mins; January 26, 2026

Episode 366: Favoritism, Family Systems, and the Work of Differentiation

13 mins; January 19, 2026

Episode 365: Three Ways to Take Responsibility for Self (Rebroadcast)

12 mins; January 12, 2026

Episode 364: Differentiation at the Edge: Why Your Growth Depends on the Hardest Moments

15 mins; January 05, 2026

Episode 363: 5 Tips to Start Your New Year Well (updated)

14 mins; December 29, 2025

Episode 362: Leadership through Self-Differentiation (Part 4 of 4) – Self-Regulation and Integrity in the Moment of Choice (Rebroadcast)

14 mins; December 22, 2025

Episode 361: Leadership through Self-Differentiation (Part 3 of 4) – The Problem with Seriousness and Reactivity (Rebroadcast)

17 mins; December 15, 2025

Episode 360: Leadership through Self-Differentiation - Part 2 of 4 – Emotional Process, Sabotage, Pain & Responsibility (Rebroadcast)

17 mins; December 08, 2025

Episode 359: Leadership through Self-Differentiation - Part 1 of 4 - Triangles (Rebroadcast)

16 mins; December 01, 2025

Episode 358: 7 Ways Leaders Get Stuck and What to Do about It - Part 2 of 2

13 mins; November 24, 2025

Episode 357: 7 Ways Leaders Get Stuck and What to Do about It - Part 1 of 2

12 mins; November 16, 2025

Episode 356: 5 Implications of Child Focus for Families and Leaders

11 mins; November 10, 2025

Episode 355: Three Ways Non-Anxious Leaders Respond to Political Division (Rebroadcast)

13 mins; November 03, 2025

Episode 354: The Importance of Extended Family Relationships

14 mins; October 27, 2025

Episode 353: How "Gray Rocking" Helps You Be a Non-Anxious Presence

10 mins; October 20, 2025

Episode 352: How "Fogging" Can Help You Be a Non-Anxious Presence

11 mins; October 13, 2025

Episode 351: How Positive Intelligence Helps You to Be a Non-Anxious Presence (Rebroadcast Part 2of 2)

13 mins; October 06, 2025

Episode 350: How Positive Intelligence Helps You to Be a Non-Anxious Presence (Rebroadcast Part 1 of 2)

12 mins; September 29, 2025

Episode 349: How Seeing System Patterns Helps You to Be a Non-Anxious Presence

8 mins; September 22, 2025

Episode 348: Non-Anxious Leaders Manage Their Own Anxiety without Involving Others (Rebroadcast)

12 mins; September 15, 2025

Episode 347: 6 Ways Self-Differentiation Builds Leadership Courage - Part 2 of 2

15 mins; September 08, 2025

Episode 346: 6 Ways Self-Differentiation Builds Leadership Courage - Part 1 of 2

10 mins; September 01, 2025

Episode 345: How to Reduce Resistance to Change

13 mins; August 25, 2025

Episode 344: 5 Ways to Assess the Health of Any Relationship System - Part 2 of 2 (Rebroadcast)

13 mins; August 18, 2025

Episode 343: 5 Ways to Assess the Health of Any Relationship System - Part 1 of 2 (Rebroadcast)

12 mins; August 11, 2025

Episode 342: Non-Anxious Leaders Embrace Discomfort (Rebroadcast)

12 mins; August 04, 2025

Episode 341: How to Focus on Emotional Process (and Not Content) (Rebroadcast)

13 mins; July 28, 2025

Episode 340: Stop Taking Responsibility for Other People's Problems (And Start Delegating Anxiety Instead)

13 mins; July 21, 2025

Episode 339: Unpacking the Responsibility Triangle (Rebroadcast)

16 mins; July 14, 2025

Episode 338: Assuming You Know What Others Are Thinking Undermines Self-Differentiation

11 mins; July 07, 2025

Episode 337: Nobody Likes to Be Told What to Do (Do This Instead)

12 mins; June 30, 2025

Episode 336: Four Types of Triangles and How to Manage Them (Rebroadcast)

14 mins; June 23, 2025

Episode 335: 5 Ways to Lead during a Societal Regression

12 mins; June 16, 2025

Episode 334: Why a Quick Fix Is No Answer (Rebroadcast)

14 mins; June 09, 2025

Episode 333: What in the World Is Going on Right Now? - Part 2 of 2

12 mins; June 02, 2025

Episode 332: What in the World Is Going on Right Now? - Part 1 of 2

10 mins; May 26, 2025

Episode 331: The Mel Robbins' "Let Them Theory" IS Self-Differentiation - Part 3 of 3

11 mins; May 19, 2025

Episode 330: The Mel Robbins' "Let Them Theory" IS Self-Differentiation - Part 2 of 3

12 mins; May 12, 2025

Episode 329: The Mel Robbins "Let Them Theory" IS Self-Differentiation - Part 1 of 3

10 mins; May 05, 2025

Episode 328: 5 Things That Help You to Be a Non-Anxious Presence (Rebroadcast)

13 mins; April 28, 2025

Episode 327: My Take on Joe Rigney's War on Empathy

15 mins; April 21, 2025

Episode 326: Control vs. Curiosity - A Family Systems Take on Martha Beck's Book, Beyond Anxiety

9 mins; April 14, 2025

Episode 325: Non-Anxious Leaders Understand They Are Not in Control (Rebroadcast)

10 mins; April 07, 2025

Episode 324: Defiance as Self-Differentiation (and Three Steps to Do It Well)

11 mins; March 31, 2025

Episode 323: How Self-Differentiation Makes You Happier

12 mins; March 24, 2025

Episode 322: 5 Ways Self-Differentiation Builds Resilience (Rebroadcast)

11 mins; March 17, 2025

Episode 321: Two Levels of Self-Differentiation (Rebroadcast)

10 mins; March 10, 2025

Episode 320: How to Lead Underfunctioning Followers

12 mins; March 03, 2025

Episode 319: How NOT to Parent (or Lead)

12 mins; February 24, 2025

Episode 318: How to Handle People Who Use Fear, Obligation and Guilt (FOG) to Manipulate You

10 mins; February 17, 2025

Episode 317: 3 Things You Need to Know to Lead in a Hostile Environment (Rebroadcast)

14 mins; February 10, 2025

Episode 316: 4 Things You Can Do If You're Not Happy with the Current Administration

12 mins; February 03, 2025

Episode 315: Managing Anxiety (Yours and Others') with Dr. Becky Kennedy's Acknowledge, Validate and Permit Strategy

11 mins; January 27, 2025

Episode 314: A Family Systems Take on Seth Godin's 10 Elements of a System-Part 3 of 3

11 mins; January 20, 2025

Episode 313: A Family Systems Take on Seth Godin's 10 Elements of a System-Part 2 of 3

11 mins; January 19, 2025

Episode 312: A Family Systems Take on Seth Godin's 10 Elements of a System-Part 1 of 3

12 mins; January 06, 2025

Episode 311: The Year End Review (with a Family Systems Take - Rebroadcast)

17 mins; December 30, 2024

Episode 310: 5 Ways You Can Grow as a Non-Anxious Presence - Part 2 of 2

14 mins; December 23, 2024

Episode 309: 5 Ways You Can Grow as a Non-Anxious Presence - Part 1 of 2

12 mins; December 16, 2024

Episode 308: 5 Ways to Assess the Health of Any Relationship System – Part 2 of 2

13 mins; December 09, 2024

Episode 307: 5 Ways to Assess the Health of Any Relationship System – Part 1 of 2

11 mins; December 02, 2024

Episode 306: How to Prepare Yourself for a Hard Holiday Discussion

16 mins; November 25, 2024

Episode 305: We Have to Do Better - How a Non-Anxious Leader Can Make a Difference

14 mins; November 18, 2024

Episode 304: What to Do Now that the Election Is Over

11 mins; November 11, 2024

Episode 303: Family Systems Theory - A Practical Overview (Rebroadcast)

20 mins; November 04, 2024

Episode 302: Nobody Likes to Be Told What to Do

11 mins; October 28, 2024

Episode 301: How Humor Helps You as a Non-Anxious Leader (and How It Doesn't)

8 mins; October 21, 2024

Episode 300: Pain and Responsibility

14 mins; October 14, 2024

Episode 299: Everyone Loves a Non-Anxious Presence - Chapters 10-14

17 mins; October 07, 2024

Episode 298: Everyone Loves a Non-Anxious Presence - Chapters 5-9

14 mins; September 30, 2024

Episode 297: Everyone Loves a Non-Anxious Presence - Chapters 1-4

15 mins; September 23, 2024

Episode 296: Non-Anxious Leaders Don't Expect Reciprocity

10 mins; September 16, 2024

Episode: 295 Self-Differentiated Leaders Set Healthy Boundaries (Rebroadcast)

12 mins; September 09, 2024

Episode 294: There IS an "I" in Team

11 mins; September 02, 2024

Episode 293: 7 Characteristics of a Non-Anxious Leader

11 mins; August 26, 2024

Episode 292: Why Saying What You Believe Matters (Rebroadcast)

13 mins; August 19, 2024

Episode 291: An Interview with Dr. Kathleen Smith (Part 4 of 4)

17 mins; August 12, 2024

Episode 290: An Interview with Dr. Kathleen Smith (Part 3 of 4)

14 mins; August 05, 2024

Episode 289: An Interview with Dr. Kathleen Smith (Part 2 of 4)

15 mins; July 29, 2024

Episode 288: An Interview with Dr. Kathleen Smith (Part 1 of 4)

17 mins; July 22, 2024

Episode 287: A Family Systems Take on the Five Stages of Maturity

13 mins; July 15, 2024

Episode 286: Worry, Stress, Anxiety, Excitement and the Non-Anxious Leader (Rebroadcast)

19 mins; July 08, 2024

Episode 285: How Positive Intelligence Helps You to Be a Non-Anxious Presence (Part 2of 2)

12 mins; July 01, 2024

Episode 284: How Positive Intelligence Helps You to Be a Non-Anxious Presence (Part 1 of 2)

11 mins; June 24, 2024

Episode 283: Why Can’t We All Just Get Along?

10 mins; June 17, 2024

Episode 282: The Zen of Self-Differentiation (Part 2 of 2)

11 mins; June 10, 2024

Episode 281: The Zen of Self-Differentiation (Part 1 of 2)

9 mins; June 03, 2024

Episode 280: 5 Things Non-Anxious Leaders Don't Do

10 mins; May 26, 2024

Episode 279: How Emotional Intelligence Helps You to Be a Non-Anxious Presence (Part 2 of 2 - Rebroadcast)

17 mins; May 20, 2024

Episode 278: How Emotional Intelligence Helps You to Be a Non-Anxious Presence (Part 1 of 2 - Rebroadcast)

13 mins; May 13, 2024

Episode 277: 10 Steps to Effectively Deal with Resistance (Part 2 of 2)

12 mins; May 06, 2024

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